Taylor Swift Takes Album Promo to ‘New Heights’ With ‘The Life of a Showgirl’ for Her Podcast Debut

For the rollout of her 12th studio album, Taylor Swift is going somewhere she’s never gone before: a podcast.

Swift is the guest on Wednesday night’s episode of New Heights, the podcast co-hosted by her boyfriend Travis Kelce and his retired-NFL-star brother Jason, where she will unveil news about her upcoming next album, The Life of a Showgirl. The appearance will mark Swift’s first dedicated podcast appearance; Swift has done Apple Music interviews with Zane Lowe and other radio hosts that live online, but has seemingly never appeared in a podcast-only format.

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On the new Billboard Pop Shop Podcast, Katie & Keith are talking about her latest rollout strategy, and whether the album’s Showgirl title could lead Swift to Las Vegas. Listen to our full conversation below:

Also on the show, we’ve got a new No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 songs chart: “Golden,” the breakout song from the Netflix animated film KPop Demon Hunters, rises 2-1 to lead the tally. Plus, Chappell Roan’s new single “The Subway” debuts at No. 3, marking her highest-charting single ever. Meanwhile, over on the Billboard 200 albums chart, Morgan Wallen’s I’m the Problem racks up a 10th week at No. 1, putting him in some rare company in the chart history books.

The Billboard Pop Shop Podcast is your one-stop shop for all things pop on Billboard‘s weekly charts. You can always count on a lively discussion about the latest pop news, fun chart stats and stories, new music, and guest interviews with music stars and folks from the world of pop. Casual pop fans and chart junkies can hear Billboard‘s executive digital director, West Coast, Katie Atkinson and Billboard’s managing director, charts and data operations, Keith Caulfield every week on the podcast, which can be streamed on Billboard.com or downloaded in Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast provider. (Click here to listen to the previous edition of the show on Billboard.com.)